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 [Can we do something for 996 programmers in China?](https://discuss.python.org/t/can-we-do-something-for-996-programmers-in-china/1119)
 - 人民日报：[“996”工作制该不该消灭？](http://t.people.com.cn/discussD.action?topicId=8160)
 - ~~阿里巴巴 马云：[马云谈996](https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/oc0NugBjpsn1_mBtbib2Lg)~~
+- 阿里巴巴 马云：[再谈996：理性讨论比结论更重要](https://weibo.com/2145291155/HpzmF8bpc?from=page_1003062145291155_profile)
 - ~~有赞CEO 白鸦：[只是聊聊 enjoy](https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/n13Xbu0HpJaNGW0gYMbpYw)~~
 - ~~无码科技 冯大辉(Fenng)：[聊聊 996](https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/Jnt8wM-oCVQppfztxB_KEQ)~~
 - 连岳：[说说996，自愿的心理治疗功能](https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s?__biz=MjM5NDU0Mjk2MQ%3D%3D&mid=2651633063&idx=1&sn=179e1809e659e92f263d0f7ef4048807)
@@ -41,3 +42,5 @@ guido：
 - Round Table China：[The grueling 996 schedule may put you in the ICU?](https://podcasts.apple.com/cn/podcast/the-grueling-996-schedule-may-put-you-in-the-icu/id793040690?i=1000434658970)
 - 比特新声：[180. 被耽误的嘻哈歌手](https://bitvoice.banlan.show/episodes/180)
 - 海螺电台 | The Spiral：[Episode 003- 漫谈996：今天你加班了吗？](http://thespiral.fm/episodes/3)
+- 大人课：[Episode 02：996 加钱有用吗？没用的。](https://growup.rocks/episode/996/)
+- 翻转电台Flip Radio：[翻电 Special 996: 不仅是道德问题 VOL.04](http://www.lizhi.fm/1057263/5037306413848290822)